North Wales Police are to be re-investigated for their involvement in the terrible troll blog ‘Thoughts of Oscar’.
What is most disturbing is the involvement between high profile Freemasons and the MP for Clwyd West, David Ian Jones.
Jones has been proved to be the main author to the troll blog ‘Thoughts of Oscar’, something which he has publically denied but is without a doubt, fact.
Jones and Superintendent John Hanson are currently being investigated for their conspired attempts to hide the truth behind the terrible effects the blog ‘Thoughts of Oscar’ has had on many of its victims….this investigation is headed by Inspector Paul Jones, who is based in St Asaph.
Below are some of the incidents which North Wales Police, the Chief constable, John Hanson and other senior police officers along with David Jones, failed to cover up.
1…..Ten officers from North Wales Police have been found guilty of sexual misconduct over the past five years.
The offences were committed between 2010 and the present day. Six of these 10 officers were either dismissed from the force or resigned as a result of the investigation into them.
One male officer was dismissed in 2012 for attempting to rape a woman in her own home although it is not known if the officer was on duty at the time.
When the relative size of the police force is taken into account North Wales Police was above the national average in terms of the number of officers found to have committed a sexual offence.
As of March 2014 there were 1,464 officers employed by the force which means that over the five year period from 2010 to 2014, 6.8 out of every thousand officers were found guilty of sexual misconduct.
The average for all police forces was lower than this at 5.5 per every 1,000 officers.
Across Britain’s police forces 522 officers were found guilty of sexual misconduct and 252 of these officers subsequently went on to either lose their job or leave their job over the investigation into them.
The data, obtained from 39 out of the 44 police forces in England and Wales as well as Police Scotland, showed that officers were found guilty of a range of offences from having sex on duty to sexually abusing children.
Sexual misconduct complaints can be brought by both members of the public and police staff.
Speaking on behalf of the North Wales Force, Supt Andy Jenks-Gilbert, said “Such behaviour is unacceptable and North Wales Police has and will deal robustly with any such incidents. ”
One of the worst hit forces in terms of the seriousness of the offences was Humberside.
In 2011 both a male and a female officer were found guilty of engaging in sexual activity with a child on separate occasions.
Both left the force.
This comes a fortnight after a senior detective in Nottinghamshire Police force claimed that forces did not fully understand the problem of sexual predators within policing.
Detective Superintendent Jackie Alexander, said that senior leaders need to “open their minds” to the fact that “sexual predators” operate in British policing and that in some cases officers who are found guilty of sexual offences against victims – many of them vulnerable – represent the greatest abuse of power.
Alexander, head of Nottinghamshire Police’s Professional Standards Department (PSD), added that forces are nervous about the issue and, like many other organisations, fear the impact it has on their organisation.
2…..Not one single police officer in North Wales has been prosecuted for police corruption over the last four years despite scores of complaints, we can reveal.
In Freedom of Information responses to questions from Plaid Cymru, the four Welsh police forces disclosed that none of their officers ended up in court after internal inquiries found them culpable.
While two of the forces went as far as disciplining officers who had allegations upheld against them, North Wales Poice & Dyfed-Powys Police failed to take any action against officers.
The data also found that only a fraction of complaints were upheld.
Between April 2008 and December of last year, North Wales Police & Dyfed-Powys Police recorded 180 allegations of improper disclosure, 56 allegations of corrupt practice and 241 allegations of irregularity in evidence/perjury. Only 16 of these allegations were upheld.
In answer to the question about what disciplinary action or criminal prosecutions have resulted from the upheld allegations, the forces replied: “We can confirm that there is no information held by North Wales Police or Dyfed-Powys Police. This is as a result of the fact that none of the ‘upheld’ allegations…resulted in disciplinary action or criminal prosecutions.”
Over the same period, Gwent Police received 56 complaints which resulted in two being “proven”. There are also three “on-going” cases. They said there had been no criminal prosecutions, but two cases of disciplinary action.
South Wales Police received 57 complaints of police corruption, of which just one was substantiated. That resulted in disciplinary action but not a criminal prosecution.
North Wales Police failed to record many of the complaints of police corruption, with only 14 since April 2008. None of these were substantiated to date although three are ongoing and three were “waived by the IPCC [Independent Police Complaints Commission]”.
Rhodri Glyn Thomas, Plaid Cymru’s spokesman on policing at the National Assembly, said: “It is deeply concerning that no Welsh officers have been prosecuted in a court of law after being found guilty of corrupt practice in the eyes of their employers.
“Of greater concern is the fact that North Wales Police & Dyfed-Powys Police did not even see fit to discipline any of the officers they found guilty of wrongdoing.
“It is very important that the police are not placed above the law and immune from the consequences of any wrongdoing.
“Their conduct should be of the highest standard”.
“Standards within police forces need to be very high if public confidence is to be maintained. The four Welsh police forces need to bear this in mind very carefully when allegations of police corruption are upheld in internal inquiries.”
Plaid Cymru advocates the devolution of the criminal justice system and policing to Wales, as has been done in Northern Ireland recently. Scotland has long had control over criminal justice and policing.
Plaid Cymru’s position on the devolution of policing and criminal justice was recently reinforced in its substantial submission to part two of the Silk Commission, which is examining whether the Assembly should get power over more policy areas.
“A Plaid Cymru Government would not be afraid to take on extra responsibility and powers for the good of the nation.
“We would welcome the extra workload in order to have the opportunity to improve the criminal justice system and to bring policing more in line with Welsh needs.
“If it can work in Northern Ireland and Scotland, there is no reason why it can’t work in Wales.”
North Wales Police will take no action over Thoughts of Oscar blog
Guto Bebb MP says he is ‘disappointed but not surprised’ by the decision, which follows an investigation into the controversial website
Police have ruled out taking any action over comments made on the controversial Thoughts of Oscar blog.
The blog – written by the MP for Clwyd West, David Jones & Llandudno
newsagent Nigel Roberts – referred to people who later set up the Victims of Oscar
While North Wales Police
will take no action over the comments made, a superintendent is investigating professional standards complaints
– referred to the force by the Independent Police Complaints Commission – into its original investigation of the blog posts. All the complainants have been contacted.
Mr Jones & Mr Roberts were unavailable for comment.
North Wales Police said that Aberconwy MP Guto Bebb
“raised a number of serious issues
concerning an online blog and the North Wales Police” in a speech in Parliament on September 9.
The force said: “After discussions with Mr Bebb, Deputy Chief Constable Gareth Pritchard issued a press release stating the force would review historical allegations concerning the blog site, and invited members of the public to make contact with the force if they had any new allegations.” This resulted in no less than 29 complaints.
To deal with the issues raised by Mr Bebb and the complainants, the police began an investigation – undertaken by a Detective Superintendent John Hanson – into the historic and new allegations concerning the Thoughts of Oscar blog.
North Wales Police said: “This investigation has now concluded and a file has been submitted to the Crown Prosecution Service.
“None of the complaints made have reached the threshold for criminal prosecution and all the complainants have been updated,” Surprisingly and in complete contradiction Detective Superintendent Hanson during a recent interview threatened to arrest the spokes person for the victims of Oscar, Mr Richie Windmill, if he did not desist in pursuing the persons responsible for the blog ‘Thoughts of Oscar’, namely David Jones. This interview was recorded and is now in the hands of Mr Windmills solicitors.
Mr Bebb said he was “disappointed but not surprised” by the decision.
He said: “I am also surprised that the review has concluded that the site was not guilty of harassment under the terms of the Protection from Harassment Act 1997.”
Mr Bebb claimed a Conwy council
officer thanked him for what they described as his “very significant” role in the blog’s demise.
He claimed the officer said the blog had caused “hurt, distress and anxiety” to council staff.
Richie Windmill, of Llandudno, helped to set up the Victims of Oscar group and said he was disappointed by the decision, but not surprised as his group had unearthed creditable evidence of police collusion with the blog.
In a statement on the Victims of Oscar website, Mr Windmill wrote: “When it was announced in September 2014 that North Wales Police would be reinvestigating the complaints made against the Thoughts Of Oscar blog, there was some hope that finally the police would take action against the authors of the blog, namely Nigel Roberts as he stated he was the ‘sole author’.
“This has come as no surprise. However, as a group, we are disappointed with the outcome.”
North Wales Police also said that concerns had been raised “regarding the ability of the force to deal with cases involving communications sent via social media”.
A force spokesman said: “A senior detective from the Public Protection Department is reviewing the force’s approach to ensure we comply with national guidelines.
“This review will be scrutinised by the Forces Independent Advisory Group, which is made up of members of the public who offer a view on the force’s approach to any particular issue.”
Deputy Chief Constable Gareth Pritchard said: “The issues raised by Guto Bebb MP have been examined in detail and the complainants have been kept updated.
“It is important that North Wales Police are able to deal with such cases effectively, and we will ensure that we have the appropriate policies and procedures in place.”