Pub Watch, Conwy borough council & North Wales Police

The hypocrisy

There is noway this committee makes decisions without the support, consent and backing of North Wales Police and CCBCouncil. why do they say in one breath that the ‘Pubwatch’ committee is as follows: ‘Pubwatch is an independent group set up by Licensees in Conwy County’.

Then they say:  ‘please note that whilst Conwy County Borough Licensing & NWP support Pubwatch locally, we do not participate in banning decisions’.

So why then if an individual wants to appeal a ban they must contact the following: ‘Any person receiving a ban can appeal in writing via the local Police Licensing Officer. Appeals are heard at a specially convened meeting. The decision following an appeal will be final’.

I support Pubwatch, but only if it is run truly independently of the Police and Council, by a committee made up of mature licencees who themselves are whiter than white, a committee that should also involve non licencees, for example customers which would allow a balanced view to any presented problems.

Just like schools do, you do not have a school governing body made up of just teachers and staff from the school, the body is made up of teachers/staff, local Councillors, parents and community members, allowing for a much more balanced decision making committee.

Finally the head of Pubwatch must be whiter than white and an official licencee, unlike the head of Conwy’s Pubwatch Gay Plumb, who has a varied disgusting history and is not a licencee.

What is “PUBWATCH”?
Pubwatch is an independent group set up by Licensees in Conwy County. Licensed Premises are committed to ensuring your safety as a customer and also the safety of their staff.
Premises will not tolerate;

* Any act of violence towards fellow customers, staff and door staff

* Drug possesion or supply

* Weapons

* Criminal damage in Licensed Premises

* Public Disorder and Anti-Social Behaviour

Pubwatch members work together on a “banned from one, banned from all” basis to enforce this policy.
Managers and staff are free to prevent anyone coming into their premises without giving a reason, much the same as you can prevent anyone coming into your house without giving a reason.

In short, if you behave in an unacceptable manner then Pubwatch members have decided that you will not be welcome in their premises.

Any person receiving a ban can appeal in writing via the local Police Licensing Officer. Appeals are heard at a specially convened meeting. The decision following an appeal will be final.

Drop us a message if you need any further guidance regarding the scheme.

* please note that whilst Conwy County Borough Licensing & NWP support Pubwatch locally, we do not participate in banning decisions.

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My reply, before it is removed

Richie Windmill Of coarse North Wales Police are involved, why are PC Gary Cooper & PC Mike Smith always in the Maelgwyn Pub having quiet little chats with Gay Plumb, the same Gary Plumb that allows drugs to be circulated in the toilets of said pub, the same Gary Plumb that dresses in women’s clothing, the same Gary Plumb that is a North Wales Police informant, the same Gary Plumb that trades under the name Gary Sky, misleading the public into thinking he is an official Sky engineer and the same Gary Plumb that has some very disgusting skeletons in his closet.

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